Apple IIe Card for the Macintosh
LC
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
This document is maintained by Phil Beesley
(beesley@mandrake.demon.co.uk) to whom all corrections,
additions and queries should be addressed. This is the HTML
version of the FAQ. The text version of the FAQ can be
freely distributed and can be downloaded from http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/lc-card/iie_card_faq.txt.
Document date: 21st October 2000
A1 - What is the Apple IIe card for the
Macintosh LC?
A2 - Which Macintosh models and system software are
supported?
A3 - Is Macintosh System 6 supported?
A4 - What is in the Apple IIe card kit?
A5 - What are the part numbers for the bits?
A6 - I have the card and Y-cable. What else do I
need?
B1 - Which types of external disk drives are
supported?
B2 - Does the card work without the Y-cable?
B3 - Can I use the Mac's built-in 3.5" drive?
B4 - Can I use ProDOS partitions on hard drives?
B5 - Can I create ProDOS partitions on an external Zip
disk?
B6 - How do I create ProDOS hard disk partitions?
C1 - Where can I buy the Apple IIe card?
C2 - Where can I obtain the IIe card software?
C3 - Where can I obtain the manual?
C4 - Can I make my own Y-cable?
D1 - How do I get started in the Apple IIe
environment?
D2 - Can I access AppleShare servers and AppleTalk
printers?
D3 - Can I boot the IIe card from a file server?
D4 - How can I use ethernet on my Mac LC series
computer?
Section A - BASICS
A1 - What is the Apple IIe card for the Macintosh
LC?
The IIe card creates a multi-featured Apple IIe inside an
LC series Macintosh. The hardware emulates many of the
expansion cards that you would install in a bare IIe,
including 3.5" and 5.25" external drives, mouse, memory, 80
column mono or colour display, clock, serial printer and
modem , SCSI hard drive and AppleShare fileserver.
The card plugs into the PDS slot in many of the LC series
Macintoshes but not all models and system software
combinations are supported. You may not add real Apple II
expansion cards because the IIe card does not have real
expansion slots.
A2 - Which Macintosh models and system software are
supported?
Macs which have an LC-compatible PDS slot AND which
support 24-bit memory addressing can use the card. System
7.0 through to System 7.5.5 support both 24- and 32-bit
addressing on suitable Macintosh models; from System 7.6
onwards, Macintosh system software does not support 24-bit
addressing. To enable 24-bit addressing, use the Macintosh
Memory control panel.
Apple's Tech Info Library article 8458 lists the
following models as IIe card compatible: LC, Colour Classic,
LC II, LC III, LC 475, LC 520, LC 550, LC 575, Quadra 605,
Performa 4XX, Performa 55X, Performa 56X, Performa 57X.
The Colour Classic II is not listed in Apple's article
but *may* work. No other model will work.
A3 - Is Macintosh System 6 supported?
Yes, you should be able to use System 6.0.8 on the
original LC. The "unofficial" release 6.0.8L may also work
with the LCII and Colour Classic. Apart from the original
LC, however, the official minimum system version for these
Macs is 7.0 or higher.
A4 - What is in the Apple IIe card kit?
- LC-compatible PDS card
- Y-cable to support external disk drives and
joystick
- manual -- "Apple IIe Card Owner's Guide"
- software -- "Apple IIe Startup Disk"
A5 - What are the part numbers for the bits?
- complete package M0444LL/A
- cable 590-0703-A
- original software package 914-0403-A
- IIe card itself 820-0444-A
- original manual 030-5001-A
- "final" manual 030-1930-A
A6 - I have the card and Y-cable. What else do I
need?
- optional platinum 5.25 disk drive (A9M0107)
- optional white Unidisk 3.5" drive (A2M2053)
- optional external SCSI hard disk
- Joystick port device
Section B - DISK DRIVES
B1 - Which types of external disk drives are
supported?
Only the two drives listed in question A6 will work with
the LC card. This is explained in Apple's Tech Info Library
article 8807. If the Unidisk 3.5" and platinum 5.25" drives
are used together, hookup the 3.5" drive first to the
Y-cable.
B2 - Does the card work without the Y-cable?
Yes, but obviously you cannot use an external disk drive
or joystick.
B3 - Can I use the Mac's built-in 3.5" drive?
The built-in drive can be mapped as a Smartport device on
Slot 5. 800Kb and 1.4Mb ProDOS formats are supported. The
original LC was available with two 3.5" drives (ie no
internal SCSI hard disk) and both drives can be accessed by
the IIe card. All other Macs in the LC family only support
one floppy drive.
Note that some copy protected software will not work from
the built-in drive and may require a genuine Unidisk 3.5"
drive.
B4 - Can I use ProDOS partitions on hard
drives?
You can create a large number of ProDOS partitions on a
SCSI hard disk but only four can be mapped at any time as
Smartport devices. When you start the Macintosh, the ProDOS
file system extension will mount the hard disk partitions on
the Mac desktop. Files can be dragged between Mac and ProDOS
volumes in the normal way to copy them.
When you start the IIe card software, ProDOS partitions
are unmounted from the Mac desktop until you quit using the
IIe card. This prevents you from accessing files
simultaneously from Mac and Apple IIe environments.
B5 - Can I use ProDOS partitions on an external Zip
disk?
The author has not tested this.
B6 - How do I create ProDOS hard disk
partitions?
If you use "standard" utilities, you must completely
reformat the hard disk to create ProDOS partitions. Recent
third-party utilities such as "FWB Hard Disk Tools" *may*
allow partitions to be changed without completely formatting
the disk.
The version of "Apple HD SC Setup" supplied on the "Apple
IIe Startup Disk" will only work with Apple brand hard
disks. A patch utility is available which modifies "Apple HD
SC Setup 7.3.5" to work with non-Apple disks. Information on
the patch can be found at http://www.euronet.nl/users/ernstoud/patch.html.
The "Apple IIe Startup Disk" contains System 6.0.8 in
order to boot an original LC Mac. This disk will not work
with later versions of the LC family.
You only need to boot from the software installation disk
to format/partition the LC series hard disk. The Apple IIe
card support software can be installed after booting the Mac
from any startup disk.
Section C - RESOURCES
C1 - Where can I buy the Apple IIe card?
The card was launched in 1991 but has been discontinued
for several years. You should be able to buy the card second
hand for a few dollars in the US but the card is more
unusual and more expensive in other countries. Avoid buying
a card which does not include the Y-cable.
C2 - Where can I obtain the IIe card software?
The final version of the "Apple IIe Startup Disk" is
2.2.x. Version 2.2.1 of the complete software kit can be
downloaded from
ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-
North_American/Apple_II/For_Macintosh/Apple_IIe_Card_2.2.1.sea.hqx
A slightly later version of the "Apple II Startup"
application is also available from
ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-
North_American/Apple_II/For_Macintosh/IIe_Startup_2.2.2d1.sea.hqx
C3 - Where can I obtain the manual for the card and
software?
Two versions of the manual can be downloaded in Adobe
Acrobat PDF format from the support area on Apple's web site
but the location seems to change periodically. Try
performing a search for "IIe card" in the manuals section.
For use with version 2.2.1 of the software, you require the
manual called "0301930AppleIIeCrd2.1.pdf".
C4 - Can I make my own Y-cable?
Possibly. The connector at the IIe card end uses an
unusual connector (3 rows of pins, 26 pins in total). The
author will determine the pin out if anyone asks.
C5 - Where can I find photos of the IIe card?
Photos of the author's card and screendumps of the card
in use can be found at
http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/lc_images.html
Section D - USING THE CARD
D1 - How do I get started in the Apple IIe
environment?
- In Macintosh mode, double-click on the "IIe Startup"
icon.
- Alternatively, double-click on an Apple II .SYSTEM
file on a ProDOS disk volume to launch the desired
application.
- Command-Control-Reset will reset the Apple IIe when
running in this mode. It will not reset the Mac.
- Command-Control-Escape in Apple IIe mode brings up
the Apple IIe control panel so that you can map slots and
functions.
- Run DOS or Pascal applications in the same way you
would use a real Apple IIe.
D2 - Can I access AppleShare servers and AppleTalk
printers?
Yes, the IIe card contains all of the functionality of
the Apple IIe Workstation card. You do not need to install
any special drivers but you do need the Chooser and Logon
tools which are on the Workstation card disk. This disk is
not available from Apple's FTP site at the time of
writing.
D3 - Can I boot the IIe card from a file
server?
Yes, you can boot from a suitable AppleShare file server
just like a real IIe. You do not need to install any
additional software for the Mac or IIe card. If you do not
have an AppleShare server, you can access shared folders on
your network but you must boot the IIe card from a floppy or
hard disk.
D4 - How can I use ethernet on my Mac LC series
computer?
If you install the IIe card, it will use the only PDS
expansion slot in your Mac so you will not be able to use an
internal ethernet adapter.
Some LC family Macs have an additional Comms slot that
will take an ethernet adapter. Apple warn that these
adapters may not be compatible with the Apple IIe card.
SCSI ethernet adapters are available second hand. These
are not as fast as a proper internal adapter but are much
better than LocalTalk or an adapter that plugs into a
LocalTalk port (eg Farallon Etherwave).
If you use an external ethernet adapter for your
networking, you will be able to use it for your IIe card's
network connection without any additional software.
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